This five-inch line voltage recessed lighting housing is air tight, fully dimmable, and UL approved for damp locations. It's also IC rated, which means it can safely be placed alongside or directly underneath ceiling insulation. This housing can be used in an existing sheet rock ceiling with insulation.
Several Knockouts: junction box has five 1/2in knockouts and four knockouts with true pry-out slots
Fairly well constructed, mostly easy to install, very stable when in place. Bought 6 of these housings to add lights to a master bedroom. Installation instructions call for a 5-1/2in hole. I bought a hole saw for this. I considered a 5-1/4in hole saw, thinking that a 5in housing didn't need much extra clearance-- that would have been a HUGE mistake. These housings need every nanometer of a 5-1/2in hole-- nothing smaller would work. As it was, a 5-1/2in hole still left you having to wiggle and force the housing in a bit. That's okay-- forcing it a little didn't damage the housing at all, and ensured a really tight and stable fit! Just be sure you stick with 5-1/2in hole saw! And-- do yourself a favor: don't try to cut a hole by hand from the template. You'll take way longer, make a much bigger mess, end up with a hole that isn't precisely round (will leave gaps), etc. etc. etc... Biggest complaint (really *only* complaint) about this housing is how difficult it was to deploy the anchor clips. Perhaps my ceiling sheetrock is thicker than average, I don't know. But I found that out of 24 anchor clips (4 each on 6 cans), I could deploy the anchor with just my finger strength only two times. The other 22 anchors required mechanical force with a small bar clamp that I turned backwards. The bar clamp popped the clips into place reasonably well-- but I did break 3 or 4 of them (snapped the metal). It's okay-- with a hole that was cut with a hole saw, the cans were plenty snug enough that having only 3 clips (only 2 in one case) was actually sufficient to make the housing very very stable and secure. I tested this from above (in the attic) as well-- all six cans are rock solid. One weird thing-- the housing has TWO ground wires-- one for the socket and one for the housing. They used quick-connect clips for all the electrical connections-- seems like it would have been easy and straightforward for them to use a single 4-connector clip for ground, and put the two ground wires in that clip. Instead, they put each of the two ground wires in their own 3-connector clip, requiring you to jumper them together, or twist the Romex ground leads together leaving both ends exposed for attaching to each of the two clips, or (if you are at the last can in your group), clipping the quick-connect clips off both ground wires and reverting to a good ol' wire nut. Just an unnecessary and strange choice that wastes some time during installation...
Pros: Well built. Easy to wire (mostly).
Cons: Anchor clips are quite hard to deploy (impossible by hand, if sheetrock is thick). Ground wires for socket and housing are not bonded together, leaving you with two ground wires to futz with. Complicates installation unnecessarily.
Purchased 5 units for small rental kitchen remodel with silver baffles. Installed 1 before realizing the entire ceiling required removal. With drywall removed, I needed to use joist mounted models instead. It looked great and was easy to install.
Pros: Quality, Price, Choice of baffles.
Cons: Spring clips were okay, but could be stronger.
I have 6 of these and they are horrible to install. They have these crappy sheet metal leaf springs that are supposed to secure the lamp. I must be weak but I cannot exert enough force on the latches to close them about half the time. On all of them I ripped off the flimsy leaf springs. I built a wood mount (doughnut) and bolted them to in with screws from the attic. Once installed they are quite nice but next time I would not bother with the remodel version.
I have a product that looks like this and was installed in my home 11 years ago. How do I determine whether or not it's IC rated? I'm installing additional insulation (rolls) - the original insulation was blown in and there are no covers over these can light fixtures. My primary concern is whether or not it's safe to install the additional insulation without can light covers. Thank you.
Dave, the best bet to be 100% sure is to find a model number or the manufacturer. Sometimes this information is listed inside the housing. You could also just play it safe and keep the insulation at least 3 inches away from the can.
Question from Brian:
Can I install a IC rated recessed light housing in wood ceiling instead of a drywall ceiling?