By Will from Durham, NC on June 21, 2013
I need some crowd sourced help here. I'm looking for step lights for a wooden stairway going to a basement. These will need to be set on the vertical part of the steps (not wall mounted) but they can't be placed in the center because there's a "spine" that runs downs the center behind the stairs. So I was thinking about placing 2 on each step - equidistant from each other. My questions are: 1) is that too much light on each step where there are lights and 2) do you think I'll need them on each step or can I space them out every 2 or 3 steps?
I really appreciate anyone's feedback who has had experience with these lights.
By Claire from Newberg, OR on June 21, 2013
Answer:We love these lights. They are much brighter than we expected.
You do not need a light for each step. We have an inside stair case in an L shape and have one every three or four steps. They are mounted in the wall, but mounting them in the stair would still provide a lot of light. We have them placed low, so they are not in your eyes, and they have made a very dark staircase bright. We use them as a night light when my mom is visiting, so she can see her way in the middle of the night.
By Joe from Denver, co on June 21, 2013
Answer:These lights are bright. Two per would look better but would be too much light. Perhaps a dimmer switch would be helpful (I do not know if these inverters can handle dimming).
I have these spaced out every 3 steps. Great coverage!
By Steve from MD on June 21, 2013
Answer:The lights are quite bright but with doing them on the riser part of the stair will limit the light spread somewhat. I’d recommend doing every other step and just alternate installs of the lights left and right as you go up the stairs, (zigzag).
By Mike from Ohio on June 21, 2013
Answer:Will - I'm no expert since I just recently mounted mine but I'm guessing one per step is plenty. Probably could go one every other step even. Mine are mounted traditionally on the wall and I only use 3 for the whole run and it's sufficient. Good luck....they have worked out very well so far and were what I thought exceptionally priced.
By Allen from Evansville, IN on June 21, 2013
Answer:These are very bright, I usually use 1 per 3 stairs on the sidewall. I think you could use 1 every other step and stagger them side to side down the stairs.
By Kevin from North Carolina on June 21, 2013
Answer:I would place two on each step, but only on every other step. So if you had 8 steps, get 8 lights (2 on the first, skip the second, 2 on the third, etc.).
By Dale Cipra from Overland Park,k on June 22, 2013
Answer:I used the lights in a closed basement staircase that is carpeted. I used the lights in the wall mount mode. They are much brighter than my old incandescent bulb lights. If your staircase is only going to be wood, you should get more light reflection than if the stair was carpeted. Therefore, I think one per stair or every other stair would suffice. If there is additional light, then one on every other stair should work. If these are the only light source and you want good light, the one per stair. Due to the middle stringer, you could alter them from left side to right side as you go down. Hope this helps.
By Bryan from Texas on June 22, 2013
Answer:I installed 4 of these lights 15 inches above the step on the wall side of a 15 step staircase. 1 light provides adequate coverage for 3-4 stairs so in my opinion 2 installed where you want them would be a little overkill but on the other hand you can never have too much light. Installing them on every other step would be more than enough. What about staggering? 1 on the left of the spine and the next one on the right? Just thinking out loud. FWIW the lights are a great install. Positive responses from l that have seen them.
By Anthony from Las Vegas, NV on January 20, 2015
I installed these on my stairs and they look great! I installed an Intermatic timer for these however even when turned off they slightly glow. I was wondering if I need another kind of timer for the LED. I use the same timer throughout the house with LED bulbs but perhaps these very low watt direct wired lights just won't work. Any thoughts or ideas?
By Jacob from Pegasus Lighting on January 21, 2015
Answer:Anthony, this is an issue that occasionally pops up with LEDs. It's called ghosting.
There's a tiny amount of electricity running in the circuit for the timer even when it's off.
If you are able to swap out the timer for one with a neutral wire connection, that could solve the issue.
I would also make sure the Timer you use is suitable for use with LEDs.
By JT from Colorado Springs, CO on January 21, 2015
Answer:I can't take credit for this answer, but as an electrician for 30+ years I agree with it.
Some light switches run a small amount of current through the bulbs even when off, usually to power small devices at the switch like a timer, motion sensor, or night light. Do your switches have either of those features, or something else like that?
The way those devices work is instead of having a hot/neutral pair powering the switch, they just sit inline with the hot wire and draw a very small amount of power. Old fashioned incandescent bulbs won't light up if there's only a small amount of electricity running through them, so you would never notice this current, but LEDs are much more efficient and apparently are getting enough power to run.
If that is the cause of the problem, there are a few solutions:
Swap out the light switches for regular ones. You'll lose whatever additional functionality they have.
Upgrade your switches to ones that have both a neutral and a hot wire, instead of just the hot wire. This may be relatively straightforward or extremely difficult, depending on whether the neutral for the light goes through the same box as the switch. (Note that even if you do have a neutral at the box it may be a little tricky to wire it up, since you'll have to cut it and then probably add a pigtail or two.)
Put back your old-fashioned incandescent.
By Meatball from Chi town on January 21, 2015
Answer:Anthony I bought these lights almost a year ago and literally just had them installed yesterday. I did notice that they did have a glow to them after I shut them off but it only lasted for a few minutes. I'm using a Lutron dimmer switch not a timer.
By Michael from NH on January 21, 2015
Answer:You have something wrong. Is timer switching the neutral (white) instead of the hot? Check to see if you wired it wrong. Mine have no timer, and they do glow slightly for a small amount of time after turning them off. Leave them on all night for safety, at 1.4 watts each!
By Phil from Chagrin Falls, OH on January 21, 2015
Answer:I purchased the same lights for my basement stairwell. They look great and provide more than adequate lighting. My lights are operated with a basic off/on wall switch. I do not have the glow issue you refer to. hope this helps. Phil
By Haamid from Malibu, CA on January 21, 2015
Answer:My lights did the same thing. However, they were put on a dimmer switch and the Building Automation company couldn't figure out how to get the lights to turn off completely when using the dimmer. We ultimately had to make them on & off switches.
By Joe from Round Rock, TX on January 21, 2015
Answer:If the timer is a digital timer, there may be a bleed through voltage to keep the timer operating causing a very small amount of power through the lights.
By Joseph from Savannah, GA on January 21, 2015
Answer:Check to see if the timer is LED compatible. If not, suggest replacing with a new LED timer.
By Eddie from AZ on January 22, 2015
Answer:I have the same problem but wired direct to a switch. When turned off they have a small glow to them.
By Mark from Dallas, TX on January 22, 2015
Answer:Not an electrical expert by any means but you do have to have a timer that states it works with the type of bulbs you are using. I had the same glowing problem when I first installed these lights and I had to upgrade my timer (one sold at your favorite big box hardware stores). Solved the problem and the lights work perfectly.
By Jake from WY on August 2, 2012
Can these be used outdoors? I live in an area where we get a lot of snow so getting wet is an issue.
By Chris at Pegasus Lighting on August 2, 2012
Yes, these can be used outside. However, they are UL listed for damp locations, not wet locations. I mention this since you state that you get a lot of snow so getting wet is an issue.
If during the winter months deep snow will be covering these step lights a lot of the time and melting on the step lights that might be a problem. However, the step lights being outside in a snow storm, but not completely covered, should be okay. It is the difference between being completely wet or just damp. I hope this helps.
By Steve from Denver, Colorado on August 2, 2012
Answer:I'm not an electrician, but did install my purchase indoor. I don't see moisture to be an issue with the actual light assembly itself as it appeared to be sealed. However, keep in mind the electrical connection will have to be water-proofed.
By Don from Nebraska on August 2, 2012
Answer:The fixtures are UL listed for damp locations so they should not be installed in areas exposed to the weather or wet areas.
By Dallas from Elkhart, IN on August 2, 2012
Answer:We did not use these lights outdoors but we really like them. We have them installed in our stairwell.
By Colin from Denver on August 2, 2012
Answer:The units themselves don't look waterproof but if the fixture is waterproof (for outside use) then it should work.
By Forrest from Hondo, Texas on August 2, 2012
Answer:Yes. They are sealed units. We recently installed four or five in a front porch steps for our customer. They are ecstatic.
By Paula Arnold from Broomfield, Colorado on December 16, 2012
Where can I buy just the covers? When our house was built, they installed horizontal fixtures. I want to replace just the cover so the light goes down instead off to the side.
By Jacob from Pegasus Lighting on December 17, 2012
I'm sorry but we do not just offer the covers. These come as a complete fixture.
By Summer from Kokomo, IN on February 16, 2013
How many stairs would one mini step light cover? Do I have to put one of these on every step?
By Jacob from Pegasus Lighting on February 18, 2013
Answer:Summer, that really depends on your preference or the amount of light that you need/require for your application. For the best effect, one on every step is a good idea.
By George from Dayton, Ohio on February 18, 2013
Answer:We put one mini step light every three steps.
By Don from Lincoln on February 18, 2013
Answer:It depends largely on how much light you want. In my home I use three fixtures about 4 or 5 steps apart and they provide plenty of light.
By Allen from Evansville, IN on February 18, 2013
Answer:No, every step is not necessary. I usually try to cover 3 steps per light, just remember that lighting the first step down is the most important to light for safety.
By Red from Santa Cruz, CA. on February 18, 2013
Answer:When I use these lights I mount them about 16 inches high. At this height they light about 3 steps really well, hope this helps.
By Forrest from Hondo, Texas on February 18, 2013
Answer:If you mount horizontally on the wall, depending on ambient light, each fixture will provide light for the step it is above and the step immediately above and below it. Obviously the fixture must be mounted about one foot above the step so it can provide illumination appropriately
By Joe from Denver, Colorado on February 18, 2013
Answer:The louvers on this LED step light have a pretty good dispersion (mounted horizontal). The light output is more than I expected.
I have 1 light per 6 steps. There are three of these lights on my stair case. One for the first 6 steps, one for the 180 degree landing, one for the top 6 stairs. This is perfect for my situation. Each light is centered on the zone about a foot above the middle stair.
If you have a straight stair case, two lights could suffice. Again, these are rather bright white light. Also be careful with placement as if you are below the light (and under the angle of the louver), you will notice the sharp bright LED.
By Robert from Denver, Colorado on February 18, 2013
Answer:These are not bright enough to light the entire stairwell; they are intended to function more like night lights to make the stairs safer in the dark. With this understanding, you definitely do not need one per step. I have four step lights for 16 stairs, and the light is quite adequate. I bought one of these to replace an older step light that had burned out, and this one is significantly brighter than the older ones.